Episodes

In the final part of our two-parter with independent journalist and attorney Katie Phang, who brought a historic lawsuit against the DOJ to release of all Epstein files , Phang explains why the original Epstein Files Transparency Act needs to be bolstered with the new bill — EFTA 2 — and the oversight and accountability that can come with a new Congress in January, if voters swing the balance of power back to the Democrats. Mentioned in this episode Katie Phang on YouTube Katie Phang on Subst...

Independent journalist and attorney Katie Phang brought a historic lawsuit to stand up for survivors and for the release of all Epstein files as the Epstein Files Transparency Act requires. Phang joins the show this week in part one of a two part interview, about how there must not be two tiers of justice. The self-described “gunner” gives us the state of play on her transparency push, explains why accountability and affordability are interdependent, and shares her expectations for oversight und...

Epstein’s most generous client, Leon Black, is suing the House Oversight committee just as lawmakers press him for nondisclosure agreements that the billionaire is refusing to share. So this week, Julie Roginsky, who helped pass two federal laws to limit the threat and power of NDAs for victims of sexual assault or harassment, joins the show to discuss the chilling effect of these agreements, why Leon Black is loathe to give them up, and how newer legislation like the Speak Out Act is intended t...

The computer scientist behind Epstein-Data.com joins the show to discuss how he came to maintain, map, and make sense of the three million+ DOJ records released earlier this year, and highlights all the missing files that the public should still demand. He also takes us into his reading on Glenn and Eva Dubin. Glenn is a hedge fund guy and alleged co-conspirator to sexual trafficking and abuse. He is married to Eva, a former girlfriend of Jeffrey Epstein’s. Why were the Dubins so close to Jeffre...

A lot more Epstein-related files are expected soon on two fronts, and independent journalist Ellie Leonard is back on the show to explain why the unsealing of documents in the Virginia Giuffre-Ghislaine Maxwell suit could be so potentially explosive, and how they could help us move closer to accountability. Ellie also has the latest in the Katie Phang lawsuit for unredacted files, including key interviews related to Donald Trump and his alleged abuse of Jane Doe 4, a teenaged girl in the 1980s. ...

Another trove of Epstein-related documents are set to be released soon, from the late Virginia Giuffre’s successful defamation suit against Ghislaine Maxwell. Giuffre’s widely known for her fearlessness in taking down some of the world’s most powerful people, but few knew about her private battle at home, and her painful final months in Australia. This week, Elise and Jena sit down with Australian journalists Mel Fyfe and Carla Hildebrandt to discuss Giuffre’s heroism, secret struggles, and the ...

At least 22 people connected to Jeffrey Epstein have died under either somewhat suspicious or super sketchy circumstances. Among them are Epstein himself, Ghislaine Maxwell’s father, two modeling agents, and two higher-ups at Deutsche Bank. This week, writer and comedian Ginny Hogan does her reading and brings us her research on these deaths, and explains why they deserve more scrutiny (and in some cases, why they aren’t so suspicious after all). Mentioned in this episode Politico: Jeffrey Ep...

The Trump administration may be on the verge of a “second Epstein scandal” that could prove “worse” in some ways, according to this week’s guest, political journalist Brian Beutler. Brian, Elise and Jena discuss the alarming abuse of girls and women at the hands of right-wing influencers the Tate Brothers, the striking (and perhaps not well-known) similarities with the Epstein operation, and Trump world’s significant ties with both. Mentioned in this episode Bloomberg: BofA, Chase, Deustche B...

Was Epstein a spy? Our guest says he didn’t need to be. Instead, investigative reporter Murtaza Hussain of Dropsite News explains how Epstein was far more powerful by using his contacts as a kind of global “fixer,” facilitating security agreements and arms sales for Israel, working with Emiratis to further their interests in Africa, establishing a backchannel between Israel and Russia during the Syrian Civil War, and more. Hussain unpacks the way Epstein was a player in a “replacement establishm...

If you can buy a royal seal of approval — like Jeffrey Epstein did with former Prince Andrew — you get the keys to some of the most influential people in the world. In today’s crossover episode from our friends across the pond at the Disorder podcast, host Jason Pack is joined by British historian Andrew Lownie, author of the Sunday Times bestseller, Entitled: The Rise and Fall of the House of York. The pair look at what made Andrew’s personality so easily corruptible, how Andrew’s narcissism an...

In this week’s headlines, Todd Blanche is grilled in his Senate confirmation hearing, Goldman Sachs exec Kathy Ruemmler goes before House Oversight, and the FBI admits it made training videos to teach Epstein file redaction. Then, we zoom in on Ghislaine Maxwell, the only Epstein co-conspirator currently behind bars. In this episode, Ghislaine Maxwell documentarian Barbara Shearer explains the stunning parallels between Maxwell’s fraudster father and Jeffrey Epstein, both of whom died under myst...

The Bill Gates-Jeffrey Epstein Connections

The deadline has come for the Justice Department to release more files related to Jeffrey Epstein, after a federal judge concluded that acting Attorney General Todd Blanche is violating the Epstein Files Transparency Act. This ruling came as a result of a lawsuit brought by Katie Phang, a lawyer and political commentator, and on this week’s show, Jena and Elise are joined by lawyer Anne P. Mitchell to explain the 44-page order from the judge, and what comes next in the push for more transparency...

The full transcript of House Oversight's interview of Lesley Groff, the woman Epstein called his "right-hand," is now available. Jena offers a recap. Then, in a cross-post from the Conspiracy She Wrote podcast, Elise and Jena share the backstory of bringing this podcast to life, what keeps them going, and what to make of all the women who explicitly and implicitly aided in Epstein's decades of abuse and trafficking. Mentioned in this Episode Conspiracy, She Wrote with Cristen Conger Lesley Gro...

Nearly 2,000 emails between writer Michael Wolff and sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein reveal the inner dynamics of their close relationship, and the way that Wolff managed Epstein's public reputation all while maintaining a reputation as a "journalist." Also, researcher Ellie Leonard scrutinizes the giant block of time that's missing from the DOJ's public files, and the curious relationship between Epstein and the Saudis. Mentioned in this episode NYT: The Untold Story of Epstein’s Death NYT...

Scott Stedman of The Newsground joins the show to explore the stories of two Russian women who appear thousands of times in the files, but have escaped heavy media scrutiny. One, Svetlana Pozhidaeva, a longtime Epstein gatekeeper , and the other, Kira Dikhtyar, who's linked to Vladmir Putin’s longtime mistress.

Political commentator Molly Jong-Fast joins Elise and Jena to talk through the recent interview of former Attorney General Pam Bondi by House Oversight, new claims about Melania Trump’s backstory, and what she’d like to see happen now that Epstein Files Transparency Act co-author Rep. Thomas Massie is a lame duck in Congress. Plus, this week’s headlines offer some more proof that we’re living in a simulation. Mentioned in the Episode Fast Politics with Molly Jong-Fast POLITICO: Bondi shifts res...

How should we think about the women who helped Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking network expand? Survivors of his abuse say Epstein's executive assistants Leslie Groff and Sarah Kellen worked alongside convicted sex offender Ghislane Maxwell to make it possible to victimize some 1,200 girls and women. Journalist Lucia Osborne-Crowley, who wrote the book on the Maxwell trial, joins Elise and Jena to discuss. Mentioned in this episode CNN: Epstein’s longtime assistant accused three previously unk...

This week, lawmakers questioned one of the last people to see Jeffrey Epstein alive, correctional officer Tova Noel. Elise and Jena explore the final weeks of Epstein's life and the unanswered questions about his death by doing the reading on Noel and Efrain Reyes, Epstein's final cellmate, who was removed from the cell fewer than 24 hours before Epstein was found dead. Mentioned in this episode: Thomas Massie’s concession speech The Hill: Greene on Massie defeat Forbes: Elizabeth Warren intro...

For a limited time only, all 3.5 million law enforcement documents related to the investigation of Jeffrey Epstein are on display at a pop-up reading room in New York. David Garrett, one of the exhibition’s organizers, joins Elise and Jena to explain the Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey Epstein Memorial Reading Room, the motivation behind the exhibition, and the scale that can be conveyed by printing and binding eight tons of files. Mentioned in the episode YouTube: House Oversight Dems hearing in...

We had more questions about Zorro Ranch, so New Mexico-based journalist Alisa Valdes Rodriguez joins the show to give us the lowdown on why investigators never seemed to look too closely at Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell’s Western outpost. Also, a lot of Epstein-related headlines this week as Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick faced Congressional questioning, and the House Oversight Chair didn’t rule out a pardon for convicted child sex trafficker Maxwell. Mentioned in this Episode NPR: Ho...

Elise and Jena will be sharing their Epstein reading as usual this Friday, but while you wait, we have a feed drop of another show you might like: NO SUCH THING is a show where three best friends and journalists settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research. In today's edition, they ask: Are dentists scamming us? It happens to be an interest of EFBC's, as well, given Epstein's girlfriend at the time of his death, Karyna Shuliak, is a certified dentist in the U.S. Virgin Islands. And New ...

This week, Jena and Elise each select a part of the sprawling Epstein network to do a little further reading. Jena explains what we know about Epstein’s former property in New Mexico, Zorro Ranch. Elise breaks down the connections between Bill Gates and Epstein, as well as The Gates Foundation and Epstein. Mentioned in this episode: CBS: 60 Minutes interview with Donald Trump Click on Detroit: Ford worker calls Trump a pedophile protector The Independent: Abuse of boys on Zorro Ranch Mitch the...

House Oversight Committee member Rep. Maxwell Frost, D-FL, joins the show to explain why (and who is responsible for) the holdup in getting former Attorney General Pam Bondi to testify about her handling of the Epstein files, what the public could do to help the investigations move forward, and the vision he has for justice when it comes to this sprawling scandal. The Daily Beast: Warren Grills Trump’s Fed Pick The CoverUp: Amanda Ungaro interview Scripps News: High profile figures s...